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pugheaven

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Post #1
Hi i was just wondering what kind of power figures you would expect with the following mods:
Longmans pp head
Piper 270 cams
Maniflow 4-2-1 manifold
Luminition 45s throttle bodies
kms management

Cheers
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:11
pedro_de_la_cruz

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210-220bhp @ 7500-odd rpm max id say if mapped by somebody competent

personally id go for slightly wilder cams than the 270's, 285H's or kent PT81s if your looking for top power on a N/A engine without forging anything

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:16
pugheaven

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what if they were 285 cams?
Cheers
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:16
pugheaven

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sorry i ment bhp
and what would the torque figures be like?
Ta
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:18
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pugheaven wrote:
what if they were 285 cams?
Cheers
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285's or 285H?

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:18
pugheaven

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are h the angry ones lol
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:19
brett-black-rallye

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Post #7
285's need pocketed pistons apparently
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:20
pugheaven

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Am i correct in saying i will need pocketed pistons for the 285h?
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:20
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too slow you beat me too it
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:20
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Brett i wish i had asked you before about your cams.
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:21
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285h's are milder than the 285 but you still need piston work. 270's are the only safe ones
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:30
pugheaven

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iv just been on the piper site.
they say
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:43
brett-black-rallye

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yeah thats for both, are you selling your 270h's then for more powerful cams?
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:55
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brett-black-rallye wrote:
yeah thats for both, are you selling your 270h's then for more powerful cams?


Don't you already have cams?

If you look to sell pugheaven, let me know Ninja

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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:17
pugheaven

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thinkin about it mate just got bodies and kms just want to see how much i would gain from 285 or 285h as i would have to get pocketed pistons or forged
Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:18
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Any one have an idea on power gains if i go for 285s with pocketed pistons?
What will drivability be like?
Thanks
Posted 29th Sep 2009 at 02:02
gtomi-6

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ollie, how much of a difference did the 270h's make. i want to cam the car and then eventually next year go for throttle boddies. but at the moment i wnat cams and want to get the right ones.ive actually met you before. you had the astor grey 6 with pug performance sunstrip didnt you?

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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 00:37
pugheaven

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its cossack grey, but yes thats me.
No bullshit but it makes one hell of a difference, My mate brought a uk spec evo and my car killed it, so much so he put it up for sale the day after!! standard scoobies, integra type r jdm the list goes on.
Had a m3 owner pull me over after i had a little play, he didnt like the fact my 200hp 306 did his m3(it was a soft top so a bit more weight)
I would say ill take you out in it but its been at station body shop since 17th june!!!
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:13
pugheaven

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but it could just be the driver lol.
worked at a karting track for 5 years and what not so i think i can drive.
my cams might be up for sale soon and they only have -10k on em.
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 02:47
gtomi-6

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serriously worth it then? i will be coupling them with. gas flowed head, maniflow manifold, magnex full system and decat, pipercross viper lightened flywheel.my engine has only done about 40k on the new engine

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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:20
gtomi-6

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last tiem i saw you i stopped you for a quick chat asking about pug performance. in the car park of those new flats opposite harvester in fareham. i herd you smashed it

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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:22
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Post #22
pugheaven wrote:

Had a m3 owner pull me over after i had a little play, he didnt like the fact my 200hp 306 did his m3(it was a soft top so a bit more weight)


he wasn't trying then Wink

id say your looking at 220 bhp max with the cams and pistons.takes alot of work to get good results out of n/a tuned Xu10's
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:25
pugheaven

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he was mate thats the funny thing, was a m reg with 150k on it. And it was on my local b road that i know very well.
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:37
pugheaven

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no not smashed it just doin a bit of work on it and payin of debt. Its gettin the inside sprayed, well ment to be when they start it.
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:39
pugheaven

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will be the same as mine was then. Worth every penny.
Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 03:41

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