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| Author | Subject: Revs exceeding 7750rpm |
 silver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Registered: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 3,202 Status: Offline |
Post #1
My mate has recently purchased a 1997 phase 1 gti6. Today he noticed that it was letting him rev way past where the limiter should let you, as it continued to rev up to about 7750, where he chickened out and eased off.He also put some red x in it when he got it and wondered if that could by any chance be causing this? Any suggestions much appreciated, Cheers  ________________________________________ R.I.P Pete Sims aka PeteGti6/PlatinumSix |
 Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 20:37
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webster
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 20 May 2007 Posts: 2,059 Status: Offline |
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Every gear?I think p1 let you rev slightly higher, I also noticed my rallye revs to around 74xx in some gears. Sounds like it might have had the rev limiter raised? You know any other history of the car? ________________________________________ cress87 wrote: I'm stopped for speeding on a daily basis but now the police are aware that I live for the 306 they dare not interfere, just sit in their cars quaking as I drive past. |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 20:40
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silver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Registered: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 3,202 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Not much sadly. it was ________________________________________ R.I.P Pete Sims aka PeteGti6/PlatinumSix |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #4
probably the usual PSA fantastically accurate gauges.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 20:58
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #5
welshpug! wrote: probably the usual PSA fantastically accurate gauges. That would be my guess  I am slightly worried that there are people out there that rev to the limit, but don't even glance at the guage to see what revs they are doing  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
yeah, especially when peak power is 7-900 RPM lower than that  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:16
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #7
welshpug! wrote: probably the usual PSA fantastically accurate gauges. I would go with that ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:19
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silver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Registered: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 3,202 Status: Offline |
Post #8
lol, nice one guys; and yeah you are bang on the money- the blokes brother must have got through about 6-7 cars in the last few years. And lets just say he didn't sell any of them on  ________________________________________ R.I.P Pete Sims aka PeteGti6/PlatinumSix |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:22
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silver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Registered: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 3,202 Status: Offline |
Post #9
webzta wrote: ..I think p1 let you rev slightly higher I thought it was the other way round, and that the earlier models had a lower limit than the later? ________________________________________ R.I.P Pete Sims aka PeteGti6/PlatinumSix |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:30
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al4x
Seasoned Pro  Location: Hitchin Registered: 20 May 2003 Posts: 23,513 Status: Offline |
Post #10
silver6 wrote: lol, nice one guys; and yeah you are bang on the money- the blokes brother must have got through about 6-7 cars in the last few years. And lets just say he didn't sell any of them on thats probably best by the sounds of it  |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 21:32
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webster
Seasoned Pro Location: Colchester Registered: 20 May 2007 Posts: 2,059 Status: Offline |
Post #11
silver6 wrote: webzta wrote: ..I think p1 let you rev slightly higher I thought it was the other way round, and that the earlier models had a lower limit than the later? I am probably wrong mate someone can hopefully clarify.  ________________________________________ cress87 wrote: I'm stopped for speeding on a daily basis but now the police are aware that I live for the 306 they dare not interfere, just sit in their cars quaking as I drive past. |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 22:37
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gota6again
Seasoned Pro  Location: Gone Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,595 Status: Offline |
Post #12
webzta wrote: silver6 wrote: webzta wrote: ..I think p1 let you rev slightly higher I thought it was the other way round, and that the earlier models had a lower limit than the later? I am probably wrong mate someone can hopefully clarify. I thought it was earlier cars revved higher too, coupled with they are lighter aswell  |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 22:38
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justinaccurate
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cov Registered: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 14,425 Status: Offline |
Post #13
silver6 wrote: Not much sadly. it was
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 00:49
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smithers
Seasoned Pro  Location: Glasgow Registered: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,016 Status: Offline |
Post #14
justinaccurate wrote: silver6 wrote: Not much sadly. it was
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:25
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Yeah early ones rev a bit higher. Usefully..________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 01:53
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gti-si
Regular Location: Bolton Registered: 29 May 2008 Posts: 228 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I don't get these people who drive there car to the limiter? Even when booting it, theres absolutley NO point?! Like mei says, your way past peak power so your just putting undue strain on the engine...I don't think I've ever changed above 7000 and the only time i've got near the limiter is in 5th ________________________________________ 1990 Cherry Red 205 Gti-62000 Mitsubishi Galant V6 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 19:06
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universal creations
Newbie Location: Eindhoven Registered: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 17 Status: Offline |
Post #17
gti-si wrote: I don't get these people who drive there car to the limiter? Even when booting it, theres absolutley NO point?! Like mei says, your way past peak power so your just putting undue strain on the engine... I don't think I've ever changed above 7000 and the only time i've got near the limiter is in 5th Sometimes in lower gears it can be useful. When you're driving trough a 60mph corner, you can keep it at 2nd gear. When changing gears at 7000+ rpm your next gear has higher revs and more power than changing below 7000rpm. This is useful when changing from 2nd to 3rd and from 3rd to 4th. At higher gears, the time you loose at 7000+ rpm is more than winning at 5500rpm in the next gear. So at lower gears it can be useful, at higher gears the loss bigger than the win. It's also possible to alter the ecu in a way that the peak power is above 7000rpm. I find this useful during sprints and a lot of high rpm corners. |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 02:59
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Superchips software for these sometimes have silly high RPM limits - so it could have had a serial re-programRich  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 03:49
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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gti-si wrote: I don't get these people who drive there car to the limiter? Even when booting it, theres absolutley NO point?! Like mei says, your way past peak power so your just putting undue strain on the engine... I don't think I've ever changed above 7000 and the only time i've got near the limiter is in 5th What about of your giving it some and need to change up a gear, if you are at peak power point when you do wouldnt you drop out of it with the change of gear and lose momentum? If however you are towards max revs when changing you would be nearer the power band of the higher gear? ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 05:04
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mark-vts
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stansted Registered: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 5,740 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Whoever says that changing after peak power is worthless is talking total rubbish; especially on these engines. They rev well at high RPM, and you don't want to bog down too much between shifts. ________________________________________ Xsara VTS > 265BHP WRX > Company carRemember; only TWATS use text speak |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 05:14
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spike_uk06
Seasoned Pro  Location: Billingshurst Registered: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 1,637 Status: Offline |
Post #21
7750rpm is just a  to be honest....________________________________________ Team ChinaTeam Pirelli Team Cracked Bumper 92k 20th Nov 1999 she was born |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 05:15
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damien
Seasoned Pro  Location: kent Registered: 27 May 2005 Posts: 5,853 Status: Offline |
Post #22
i had a 8k limiter on mine but i was running cams/throttle bodies but must admit that i hardly ever hit that |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 13:25
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #23
mark-vts wrote: Whoever says that changing after peak power is worthless is talking total rubbish; especially on these engines. They rev well at high RPM, and you don't want to bog down too much between shifts. Yeah thats what i was getting at, it was late  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 14:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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so whaty exactly is the point of changing gear at 7400, when all you'll do is drop down to 6500, where what happens?oh yeah PEAK power and where it dies off ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 15:17
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #25
welshpug! wrote: so whaty exactly is the point of changing gear at 7400, when all you'll do is drop down to 6500, where what happens? oh yeah PEAK power and where it dies off Surely if you change at 7400 in first or second it will drop you back down to less than 6500 though wouldnt it? I cant remember the gearing on my 6 too well as its been a while so I might be talking bo***cks but I always felt the need to get the most out of second to keep momentum and good power in third. Saying that, When I had my old 6 on the RR peak power was 6850 iirc so maybe its just down to different engines/modifications etc. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 17th Sep 2009 at 15:31
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